tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post3919783684405618260..comments2024-03-21T19:29:24.316-07:00Comments on Adventures In Stoving: The Soto Microregulator (OD-1R)Hikin' Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-43004038602728068272016-03-28T21:35:32.027-07:002016-03-28T21:35:32.027-07:00Dave, I would take the OD-1Rx (Windmaster) over th...Dave, I would take the OD-1Rx (Windmaster) over the older MicroRegulator. It's far and away the more efficient and wind resistant. Take a look at this video that I shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_yy0v1hq6w<br /><br />I think that should speak volumes as to why I prefer the newer Windmaster.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-60183617311552711062016-03-28T21:33:37.680-07:002016-03-28T21:33:37.680-07:00You're welcome of course.
HJYou're welcome of course.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-11888052393005856502016-03-24T12:54:50.496-07:002016-03-24T12:54:50.496-07:00Great review. I have a question which is more of ...Great review. I have a question which is more of what would recommend. The Soto WindMaster OD-1RX or the one you reviewed OD-1R. I am looking at a CDT thru-hike and trying to decide on which one? Thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14079207878805608325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-55016959959845080112016-01-28T02:33:58.511-08:002016-01-28T02:33:58.511-08:00Thanks so much for the detailed replies!Thanks so much for the detailed replies!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17624765878737673601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-37640162215900744442016-01-27T22:02:44.783-08:002016-01-27T22:02:44.783-08:00Well, actually, take a look at this video:
https:/...Well, actually, take a look at this video:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_yy0v1hq6w<br /><br />The flame spreads out better than you might think. Now, that said, of course you have to be careful with a thin walled titanium pot. By the way the Evernew 1300 ml pot is one of my all time favorites -- and my most used pot, bar none. The trick when cooking anything that might stick is twofold:<br />1. Turn it down a bit lower than you might otherwise, and <br />2. Stir frequently.<br /><br />I've had good success with both the Microregulator and the Windmaster with an Evernew 1300 ml UL with things like noodles and rice, both of which can be quite a pain if they burn.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-9979521730337222642016-01-27T21:59:13.300-08:002016-01-27T21:59:13.300-08:00Kevin, I think a 21 cm pan (about 8 inches) is goi...Kevin, I think a 21 cm pan (about 8 inches) is going to be fine. Now, the pot supports on a little backpacking stove are relatively small, so you have to be careful. I would definitely hold the pan with one hand when turning, stirring, flipping, etc. anything in the pan. I have made many an omelette with a 21cm pan on the Microregulator, and the Windmaster is very similar in terms of it's pot stability.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-66428547694126728392016-01-27T21:17:39.396-08:002016-01-27T21:17:39.396-08:00I also own an MSR flex skillet (21cm diameter), ok...I also own an MSR flex skillet (21cm diameter), ok with windmaster?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17624765878737673601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-43366938139632377432016-01-27T11:35:16.384-08:002016-01-27T11:35:16.384-08:00Thanks Hikin Jim, huge fan of your reviews. I am c...Thanks Hikin Jim, huge fan of your reviews. I am considering the newer version of this stove (The Soto Windmaster), but from pictures it appears that the flame wouldn't be as wide. Would the Windmaster work well with the 1300ml Evernew Ultralight, or will it be too concentrated in the center and cook unevenly?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17624765878737673601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-78467953479596503062013-05-31T17:23:48.679-07:002013-05-31T17:23:48.679-07:00Hi, Gerry,
Generally a lower flame is more effici...Hi, Gerry,<br /><br />Generally a lower flame is more efficient. I'm sure there's some kind of a sweet spot where you hit maximum efficiency, but that's going to vary by stove. The important point to remember is that you seldom want to run your stove with the valve fully open. That's just as wasteful as always driving your car with the gas pedal fully pushed to the floor.<br /><br />I haven't tried the OD-1RX. I like that it has some options (two different pot supports, one large, one small), but I'm not sure if I like the idea of having to remove the post support to pack up the stove. For now, I'm happy with my OD-1R, but I'd like to test an OD-1RX if one were available.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-21463531250301165782013-05-21T13:09:25.406-07:002013-05-21T13:09:25.406-07:00Henrik
Thanks for the clear, thorough review of th...Henrik<br />Thanks for the clear, thorough review of the Soto od-1r. I'm thinking of updating my stove, and am considering the od-1R and od-1rx. I realize you haven't yet reviewed to newer stove, and may not have even tried one. If you do have any direct experience with it, do you have any reason to prefer the od-1r or od-1rx? <br />Also, I read somewhere that using a canister stove at less than max capacity (maybe half of max?), even to boil water, will increase it's overall efficient use of fuel, thereby increasing the number of boils one can derive from a single canister. Is this correct, and do I have the rate of use (about half of capacity) correct?<br />thanks<br /><br />GerryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956543563171552276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-27871377493726028022013-03-25T11:15:50.425-07:002013-03-25T11:15:50.425-07:00Henrik,
The Gigapower is an excellent stove. It&...Henrik,<br /><br />The Gigapower is an excellent stove. It's very compact and has good pot stability, better than either the MicroRocket or the MicroRegulator. It is a little heavier though. <br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-39044312439515727962013-03-25T10:59:15.820-07:002013-03-25T10:59:15.820-07:00Hi Jim!
I came across a german online store that ...Hi Jim!<br /><br />I came across a german online store that sells the Snow Peak Gigapower stove. I will probably get it. It is the manual version tho, not sure if the auto is much more convenient? Anyways its cheaper than both the MicroRocket and the Soto. <br /><br />Should be good right?<br /><br />/ HenrikHenkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-54144770302349527902013-03-23T21:33:12.400-07:002013-03-23T21:33:12.400-07:00Henrik,
They're both good stoves. I don'...Henrik, <br /><br />They're both good stoves. I don't think you'll see a <i>dramatic</i> difference between the two with a fry pan, although perhaps the Soto Microregulator is slightly better. If it were me, I'd probably go on cost.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-43587272723489685252013-03-23T15:55:45.634-07:002013-03-23T15:55:45.634-07:00Hi Jim!
Sorry for my late reply! Yeah they did i...Hi Jim! <br /><br />Sorry for my late reply! Yeah they did indeed feel flimsy.<br /><br />Do you think that I would notice any difference at all when frying from the wider head of the Soto compared to the MicroRocket? The MicroRocket is cheaper in Sweden but I would pay the extra money for a better frying capability. Everything else seems equal or better with the MicroRocket?<br /><br />Cheers, Henrik<br /><br />Henkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-89783021254573750882013-03-21T17:20:30.983-07:002013-03-21T17:20:30.983-07:00Well, I did wipe off all the food afterwards, :) b...Well, I did wipe off all the food afterwards, :) but after use, weather, etc, the pot supports seem tighter to me. There are a number of people who fault Soto for the design. The MicroRocket has no such problem.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-10490175556586258752013-03-21T01:35:48.049-07:002013-03-21T01:35:48.049-07:00Hi!
Haha, ok so "after some use" actual...Hi!<br /><br />Haha, ok so "after some use" actually meant "after you spilled some food on them"? ;)<br /><br />Haha, oh well maybe the MicroRocket then. I like to keep things clean ;).<br /><br />Thanks,<br />HenrikHenkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-83461263095509911422013-03-20T15:30:20.411-07:002013-03-20T15:30:20.411-07:00You're going to laugh, but my pot supports act...You're going to laugh, but my pot supports actually worked better after I spilled some food on them.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-3068763748512129582013-03-20T13:15:33.231-07:002013-03-20T13:15:33.231-07:00Hi Jim!
Hehe it´s ok!
I actually found the stov...Hi Jim! <br /><br />Hehe it´s ok!<br /><br />I actually found the stove in my local store. I checked and it easily fits inside the bowl I had in mind! The stove was much smaller then I first anticipated.<br /><br />Hmm I did notice that the "legs" were a bit flimsy but also read that yours became better after some use? Oh well, time will tell :).<br /><br />Thanks alot for your help and take care,<br />HenrikHenkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-84209101579778142112013-03-19T21:26:50.653-07:002013-03-19T21:26:50.653-07:00Ah, yes, I realized that later, hence my second re...Ah, yes, I realized that later, hence my second reply. I haven't had a chance to check sizes. I've been working very late at my job.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-48526322044365506002013-03-19T00:59:56.248-07:002013-03-19T00:59:56.248-07:00Hi Jim!
Sorry to make you confused ;). I saw a vi...Hi Jim!<br /><br />Sorry to make you confused ;). I saw a video of a PocketRocket fitting into the bowl so as long as the Soto is smaller than the PocketRocket it won´t be a problem. The PocketRocket was never on my buy-list, it was only for measurement.<br /><br />It will be either the MircroRocket or the Soto but leaning towards the Soto cause of the wider burner head (for frying) unless you suggest something else ;).<br /><br />Thanks alot for your help :).Henkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-52179615211208979362013-03-18T15:56:01.150-07:002013-03-18T15:56:01.150-07:00P.S. I don't own the particular bowl that you...P.S. I don't own the particular bowl that you mentioned, but I believe the Soto will fit. If a big, bulky PocketRocket will fit, I would think the Soto will fit. The MicroRocket is even smaller and will definitely fit.<br /><br />I will do some checking tonight when I get home.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-62066664799642277132013-03-18T15:01:58.899-07:002013-03-18T15:01:58.899-07:00Oh, the PocketRocket? Don't get a PocketRocke...Oh, the PocketRocket? Don't get a PocketRocket. Very much an older stove. Not compact at all, and the pot supports are too flexible and flimsy. There might be some struggle when deciding between a MicroRocket and a Soto MicroRegulator, but there is no struggle when choosing between a PocketRocket and a Soto MicroRegulator. The Soto MicroRegulator is far and away the better stove, particularly if you want to use a fry pan. Get the Soto.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-26858719604547965922013-03-18T12:57:50.623-07:002013-03-18T12:57:50.623-07:00Hey thank you for your time!
Do you mean the Micr...Hey thank you for your time!<br /><br />Do you mean the MicrRocket or the PocketRocket in your last reply? I was asking about the PocketRocket.<br /><br />I ask because I have this set from GSI (Halulite Dualist set) and I´ve seen a youtube video where they fit a PocketRocket into one of the bowls. I´m wondering if the Soto also will fit. If not I will go for the MicroRocket instead.<br /><br />Oh ok I might aswell try to find something else then in terms of wind protection then.<br /><br />Thanks alot for your replies, they really help!Henkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-59791409031248394742013-03-18T12:40:24.354-07:002013-03-18T12:40:24.354-07:00Henrik,
The MicroRocket is, to the best of my mem...Henrik,<br /><br />The MicroRocket is, to the best of my memory, shorter and is certainly narrower. The wider head of the Soto will definitely take up more room, for example, in a pot.<br /><br />I have not tried a Trangia pan on either stove, but an 18cm pan from the Trangia 27 should work fine. A 22cm pan from the Trangia 25 might be too large.<br /><br />The Soto windscreen is nice, but it's not crucial. For real wind protection, you need more. I have a post here on my blog about windscreens if you are interested.<br /><br />HJHikin' Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554269915148144573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359823178932343980.post-62179231521902078992013-03-18T11:41:45.335-07:002013-03-18T11:41:45.335-07:00Hello Jim and thank you for your answear!
Yes, I´...Hello Jim and thank you for your answear!<br /><br />Yes, I´ve noticed that feature but also taken your advice not to fully rely on it ;).<br /><br />Would you say that the Soto stove is compared to the MSR Pocket Rocket size wise? Is the Soto smaller?<br /><br />I will purchase a 18 cm diamater frying pan from Trangia.<br />http://www.addnature.com/product.aspx?pf_id=TRANGIA_STEKPANNA27HA<br />I´m still not sure if Trangias do work with stoves like these but since it is so cheap I will give a try. Have you tried a Trangia frying pan with stoves like the Soto?<br /><br />I really want the Soto windscreen too but I can´t find it anywhere in Sweden. I´ve been looking at shipping but it is fairly expensive (77 bucks).Henkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221495463977066132noreply@blogger.com