The Caldera Cone with an MSR Titan Kettle in place. |
The Caldera Cone (left) and an MSR Titan Kettle |
At a minimum, Trail Designs sells a cone and a 12-10 stove together. One frequently purchases the pot separately (as I did). You can buy packages that may save you money. Packages are at least worth looking into.
Generally, it's not a good idea to buy just a cone and then just use whatever alcohol stove you happen to have handy. Inside the cone, you have a high heat, low oxygen environment. The 12-10 stove has been specifically tuned for this environment. Not all alcohol stoves will function well in this environment. If you do choose to use another stove, test it thoroughly before you head out on the trail.
Anti-Gravity Gear makes several packages to go with Trail Designs Caldera Cone systems. The Reflectix cozy that you see in the below photo came from Anti-Gravity Gear although there's no reason why you couldn't just make your own. Anti-Gravity gear also sells more sophisticated packages to go with Caldera Cone systems.
Aluminum Caldera Cones can also be used with hexamine tablets (e.g. ESBIT). Titanium Caldera Cones can be used with alcohol, wood, or hexamine.
Here's the set packed:
The Caldera Cone, all packed up. A reasonably compact package considering what it contains. |
My Caldera Cone set up, unpacked. |
- The Caldera Cone and 12-10 stove are available from TrailDesigns.com
- The MSR Titan Kettle is available from just about any outdoors type store. There's an REI near me, and they carry it.
- The Ziploc container is available from just about any grocery store.
- The Reflectix cozy can be homemade from Reflectix material from a hardware store. I believe AntiGravityGear.com also has pre-made cozies.
- The stuff sack is from an old First Need water filter. Not sure where you can get that exact stuff sack, but I'm sure someone makes a stuff sack that will work.
- The fuel bottle is just an eight ounce bottled water bottle from the grocery store. I peeled off the lable and wrote all over the bottle so it won't be taken for something to drink.
- The spoon is just a Lexan spoon I got at Sport Chalet years ago.
- The little fuel measuring cup is one I got from the hospital when my wife was pregnant. I'm sure one from cough syrup, etc. would work just fine.
- The lighter shown is an ordinary Bic lighter from any gas station, liquor store, or grocery store.
Here's a closer look at some of the components.
L to R: Reflectix Cozy, Ziploc "bowl", and 12-10 Stove |
Boiling water on a Caldera Cone with a 12-10 Stove |
The dovetail joint of a Caldera Cone, assembled. |
Typical Components in my Caldera Cone set up |
The blue lid is held in place by the edges of the rolled up cone. |
The Titan Kettle's lid is added last as shown. |
The Caldera Cone all packed up. An approx. 500ml sized Sierra Cup is included in the photo for scale. |
The stuff sack from an old First Need water filter works well to hold all the components. |
Now, for all you DIY'ers out there, here's a video I saw on YouTube of how to make a Caldera clone. Personally, I like the Trail Designs product, but many people love DIY, so here you go:
Finally, let me leave you with a "demonstration" of the proper use of the Ziploc container as a bowl.
Chowing down! |
HJ
P.S. This blog post is part of my series on the Caldera Cone. In case you missed any of the series:
- Caldera Cone Alcohol Stove Review (on Seattle Backpackers Magazine)
- Caldera Cone Review Supplement -- Additional Photos and Technical Appendix with Weights
- Caldera Cone vs. Clikstand Alcohol Stove Tests
- The Caldera Cone's 12-10 Burner
- What "Color" is your Caldera?
- The "Magic" of the Caldera Cone (Why is the Caldera Cone so efficient?)
Weight stats for my Caldera Cone set up
The following weight stats for the Caldera Cone may be of interest:
Caldera Cone: 34g/1.2oz
12-10 stove: 16g/0.6oz
Total Caldera Cone with 12-10 stove: 50g/1.75 oz
Small fuel measuring cup: 1g/0.04oz
Eyedropper: 1g/0.04oz (for reclaiming unburned fuel)
Four fluid ounce flip top bottle with approximately 3.75 fluid ounces of fuel: 132g/4.7oz
MSR Titan kettle: 98g/3.5oz
Titan kettle lid: 37g/1.3oz
Total Titan kettle: 135g/4.8oz
Ziploc container (used as storage and as bowl): 55g/1.9oz
Reflectix cozy: 22g/0.8oz
Stuff sack: 17g/0.6oz
Entire kit: 413g/14.6oz
Note: Your actual weight will vary with the amount of alcohol that you take. The amount of alcohol shown above is more than enough for me for a solo weekend trip with two nights out on the trail.
Related posts and articles:
- Getting Started with Alcohol
- DIY Alcohol Stoves -- Basic Design Considerations
- Cold Weather Tips for Alcohol Stoves
- Is Ethanol Worth It?
- Caldera Cone Alcohol Stove Review (on Seattle Backpackers Magazine)
- Caldera Cone Review Supplement -- Additional Photos and Technical Appendix with Weights
- The Clikstand Alcohol Stove System Review
- Caldera Cone vs. Clikstand Alcohol Stove Tests
- Trangia 27 Alcohol Stove System Review
- The Caldera Cone's 12-10 Burner
- The Trangia Alcohol Burner
- What's the Best Alcohol for Stove Fuel?
- What Is Meths? (And how is that different than Methanol?)
- Going "Green" with Stoves: Alcohol and Biodiesel
Notice: The author has no affiliation with Trail Designs or Anti-Gravity Gear. Any links provided are provided as a courtesy only and do not constitute an endorsement of any person or corporation. No equipment was furnished by Trail Designs or Anti-Gravity Gear for this review. All opinions are strictly the author's and do not necessarily reflect the views of Trail Designs or Anti-Gravity Gear.
While I love the Caldera Cone for its efficiency, I have a few problems with it. The bulk of the whole package for one and how easily the slots are damaged when rolling it and putting it in the tube. A season of using it banged it up to such a degree that it was damaged beyond repair. My emails to Trail Designs to see if I could buy a new cone kept bouncing back. Not good to have a company with no way to contact them.
ReplyDeleteI haven't had problems with my "dovetail" (I assume that's what you mean by "slots") getting banged up. Are you rolling yours fairly tightly? The Ziploc container I'm using does not require that I roll particularly tightly which may be an advantage.
ReplyDeleteWhat email did you try for Trail Designs? I show info at traildesigns dot com
If that doesn't work, you can send the owner, Rand Lindsly, a PM through the BackPackingLight forum: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/profile.html?u=randlindsly He's usually pretty responsive.
HJ
I just added a photo to this blog post of the set up all packed. To me, it's really a pretty small package considering everything that it contains.
ReplyDeleteHJ
Another great post Jim. Thanks for the eye dropper tip! I'm an alcohol stove user and always hated the "burn off" of the left over fuel.
ReplyDeleteSorry you couldn't get ahold of us.....email on the website works pretty reliably and is exactly as Jim spelled it out. Please get in touch....
ReplyDeleteRand
Hi, Andy,
ReplyDeleteYeah, trying to pour it out just doesn't cut it. Most of the alcohol winds up on the ground. A little eyedropper works a lot better and weighs almost nothing. The eyedropper can also be used for priming an alcohol stove in cold weather.
HJ
Hi, Rand,
ReplyDeleteThanks for dropping by. I knew you guys had great customer service, but I didn't know you'd do "house calls" to my blog. ;)
HJ
Have I ever let you down buddy? :-)
ReplyDeleteThat's the one I tried. Three times over several weeks. Bounced back each time.
ReplyDeleteYes, the dovetail is what I meant. I have the caddy for the two different CCs I have, and it tends to unfurl as you remove it and the ends got battered so much that one of them is pretty much kaput.
FWIW, my review of it.
http://exploriment.blogspot.com/2009/10/caldera-cone.html
Rand, I'll get in touch at some point to see about buying a replacement, but I'm in school right now and money is tighter than a snare drum.
Ahhhh....yes....I see your post is from 2009. We've enhanced the dovetail a good bit since then. Using some stronger aluminum in addition to re-enforcing it with a titanium "doubler". The original still works fine as you can see from Jim's pictures above, but we went ahead and strengthened it up a bit anyway. The email address is used every day by lots of folks. You can try my direct email randATtraildesignsDOTcom as well.
ReplyDeleteRand :-)
Hi, Rand,
ReplyDeleteThanks for popping in with technical expertise.
HJ
Any alcohol stove will simmer after a bit of water is dribbled into the burning fuel reservoir.
ReplyDeleteHmm. Interesting. That hasn't been my experience, but if it's working for you, great.
DeleteHJ