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Monday, April 8, 2013

Canister Stoves and Wind

I got a note from someone recently:
Hey Jim,
I'm really enjoying your adventures in stoving website.
I'm new to canisters, obviously, so I'm trying to play catch-up. I'm sure this is answered somewhere on BPL or on your website. But would you mind answering these 2 newbie questions?
1) Can the flame on a canister stove get blown out by the wind?
2) In your experience, is a windscreen valuable on an upright canister stove?
This is assuming the windscreen shields the canister from the heat source instead of reflecting the heat towards the canister. thanks for your advice and experience on this topic and others.
Yes, a canister stove absolutely can get blown out by the wind. Some Scouts were camped next to me when I was out doing some stove testing of the new 1.0L MSR Reactor. They took great interest in the Reactor when I explained to them that it was the most windproof upright canister stove, remarking "our Jetboils were blowing out on our last trip in the San Jacinto Wilderness."  And the Jetboil is actually more wind resistant than the typical upright canister stove.

Now, as to the second part of your questions, "is a windscreen valuable on a canister stove?" In a word, yes -- and for more reasons than just to keep your stove from actually blowing out.

First and foremost of course you want to prevent your stove from blowing out, but that's actually fairly rare.  Good site selection should prevent most full blow outs. 

Second, though, you want to prevent the wind from shifting your flame. You want that flame well centered under your pot. Take a look at this photo:
A flame shifted to the right by a very slight puff of wind
Notice how a light breeze has shifted the flame to the right. Where is the heat going? Well, it's not fully going into your pot. And what happens in a heavier wind?  Heavy winds can really play hob with your flame.  A windscreen can significantly reduce flame shifting.

Third, the windscreen helps trap heat. The flame heats the air that surrounds it. That hot air will help transfer heat to the pot, particularly if the windscreen channels the hot air up along the sides of the pot. Remove that windscreen, and the hot air gets dispersed by normal air circulation or wind.  Notice how in the photo below that the hot air around the flame is completely free to disperse into the surroundings. 
A very exposed, unprotected flame.   Note how the sides are completely open.
Lastly, the one time you really do have to worry about your flame getting blown out is on very low flame settings.  Using a windscreen allows you to use a low flame without having your stove blow out altogether, thus giving you greater control over your cooking. 


Why a windscreen?
You want to use a windscreen to
  • Prevent your stove from blowing out
  • To keep the flame centered (i.e. prevent flame shifting)
  • To trap the heat near the pot.
All of the above contribute to greater efficiency, faster speed, greater control, and, in higher winds, the ability to cook at all.

What kind of windscreen?
Ah, that's all very well and fine, Jim, but what kind of windscreen should I use?  Well, first, do NOT use a full 360 degree windscreen on an upright canister stove. An upright canister stove is a canister stove that screws directly into the canister (sometimes also called a "top mounted" canister stove).  If you fully surround the stove, you could trap so much heat that you overheat the canister and cause an explosion, which could have severe if not deadly results.

Here's a windscreen that I've found useful:
A windscreen made of quadrupled heavy aluminum foil.  Note the partial opening to prevent overheating.
Note that in the photo above that there is snow to the left of my stove.  It was January when I took this photo and I'm atop an 8,000+ foot/2400+ meter peak.  The gap I left in the windscreen is fairly small, which is fine for such a day.  ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS monitor the temperature of your canister with your hand when using a windscreen with an upright canister stove.  If the canister feels hot, take immediate action to prevent overheating.  Open up the windscreen, turn down the stove, or even stop cooking if need be.  DO NOT allow the canister to overheat.  That would be, um, bad.  Bad as in a potential stay in the the hospital -- or worse.  Note that every manufacturer says not to use a windscreen in any form for this very reason.  I think a windscreen is reasonably safe if you consistently and frequently monitor the canister temperature with your hand, but keep in mind that you are going against the manufacturer's recommendations.  Nothing prevents a serious accident but you and your good sense.  The benefit though is of course significantly lower fuel use, faster cooking, and in some cases the ability to cook at all.  In significant winds, an upright canister stove may not be able to bring water to a boil at all, no matter how hard your try, without a windscreen.  The lawyer who wrote the warning on your stove probably didn't have to worry about that.  You do.  Windscreens are reasonably safe if you are diligent but potentially deadly if you are not.  Fair warning.

An aluminum foil windscreen made from multiple sheets of foil.  
The windscreen in the above photo is made out of heavy household aluminum foil of the type you can get at any grocery store.  I use three or four sheets folded at the edges to hold them together.  Note that it's light and needs to be braced with rocks in heavier winds.  It's not super durable, but will hold up for multiple weeks worth of hiking with reasonable care.  I fold mine in half lengthwise, roll it around a water bottle, and put the resulting bundle into a bagel bag for protection before putting it in my pack.
My windscreen rolled and wrapped, ready for packing.
Crafter's foil, also called tooling foil, of about 36 or 38 gauge is more durable.  I've found crafter's foil available on eBay.  Titanium foil is better still, albeit pricier.  Some have used aluminum roofing flashing to good effect although flashing is a bit heavier.

Note that you need a screen of sufficient height to accommodate the sizes of canisters you will use.  A 110g canister is far shorter than a 220g canister which is in turn far shorter than a 450g canister.  A windscreen for an upright canister stove on a 450g canister is so tall that it's frankly a royal pain in the posterior.  I'm not sure I can really recommend the above shown type of windscreen with a 450g canister.

Naturally, there are a lot of other ideas beyond the simple windscreen I'm showing here.  I address some of those ideas in a another blog post:  More Windscreen Ideas

Al foil as a windscreen
GOOD
  • Cheap
  • Easy to get
  • Easy to work with
  • Light

BAD
  • Needs to be braced with rocks in moderate to high winds
  • Not all that durable (but not all that bad either with reasonable care)

It's cheap, easy, and available, so experiment away. If you find it's not working for you in terms of durability or stability, then by all means seek out tooling foil, flashing, or titanium foil.

I hope you find this helpful,

HJ

Thursday, April 4, 2013

Blog Status, 4 April 2013

Things are going reasonably well here at Adventures in Stoving.  We just passed half a million site views in early March, about 2 years after starting.  Readership was over 40,000 site views last month which is the highest it's been since I had to put the blog essentially on hold April 2012 - January 2013 while I worked a job that required me to commute 100 miles a day.  I'm now working closer to home, and I'm able to get back to blogging.

Speaking of work, I work for a bank that's going through a merger.  We're working 7 days per week to get the job done by the end of April, which doesn't leave me a lot of time to get out on the trail.  Things may be just a little sparse between now and the end of April, but I've got some good stuff that I've prepared ahead of time, so stay tuned.

The Adventures In Stoving team, out on the trail.
 On other fronts, I wanted to make you aware of an interesting KickStarter project called Hot Fingers.  Hot Fingers is the brain child of budding industrial designer Mike Oldani.  I'll let Mike speak for himself:



I haven't tried the product myself, but I like to encourage innovation.  If you're of a mind to, why don't you kick in a buck or two for the project?

My thanks as always to you, my readers.

HJ

Saturday, March 30, 2013

Kovea Enters the US Stove Market

Kovea is the best known brand that you've never heard of (if you're an American).  Kovea has been making high quality stoves and other gear for names like MSR and Snow Peak for some time.  I had heard of the Kovea name (and it's excellent reputation) from friends overseas.
The MSR PocketRocket (left) and the MSR MicroRocket (right), both commonly said to be made by Kovea for MSR
But Kovea has never sold stoves under it's own name in the US.  True, you could get them on eBay, but not from any US based retailer.
The Kovea Spider, a first class stove
Well, all that has now changed.  Kovea has announced it's first venture in selling its stoves (and other gear) directly in the US market through a collaboration with  The Gear House, a Colorado based retailer.  Other retail agreements may follow.  Among the interesting offerings is the Alpine Pot which appears to be Kovea's answer to the Jetboil.  I'd love to test one of those some time.
The Kovea Alpine Pot stove system


If you've read my recent review of the Kovea Spider, you'll know that Kovea is putting out good stoves at competitive prices.  I think Kovea is a stove company to watch.

Thanks for joining me on another Adventure in Stoving,

HJ

Monday, March 25, 2013

The New, Lighter 1.0L MSR Reactor

MSR has just released (January, 2013), a new, lighter weight version of their Reactor stove system, with a 1.0L pot.  Think of it as a "mini Reactor" (my name for it, not MSR's).
The original Reactor (1.7L), left, and the new "mini" Reactor (1.0L), right.
A Substantially Lighter Version
Now, I know what you're thinking, "well, of course it's lighter, it's smaller."

Yes, I understand that, but I mean this one really is lighter, substantially lighter, lighter than you would expect just based on size alone.  Typically, a larger pot is actually lighter per unit of volume.   For example, my 0.9L Primus LiTech kettle weighs 164g, which is a ratio of 0.182g/ml.  My 1.5L kettle of the same brand and type weighs 219g, which is a ratio of 0.145g/ml.  Yes, the larger kettle is heavier overall, but it's lighter per unit of volume.

The original Reactor pot weighs 341g (without lid), which is a ratio of  0.20g/ml.  The new Reactor pot weighs 172g, which is a ratio of 0.17g/ ml.   So even though smaller pots usually weigh more per unit of volume, the new Reactor actually weighs less per unit of volume.  The weight savings here aren't just from a smaller pot but rather from a redesign.  Note:  Both the original and the new mini Reactor use the same burner.

Update 25 March 2013:  MSR informs me that there is also a newer version of the 1.7L Reactor pot that has the same welded fins as the new 1.0L Reactor pot.   The newer version of the 1.7L Reactor pot is lighter by about three ounces (~80g) than the original 1.7L Reactor pot.  If you have the newer version of the 1.7L Reactor pot, your weight savings will not be quite as substantial if you switch to the 1.0L Reactor pot.

OK, so the new Reactor is lighter than just what we would expect based on the smaller pot size, how did they do it? Well, clearly MSR set out with lightening up in mind.  The heat exchanger, a significant source of weight, has been revamped.
The original Reactor, left, and the new "mini" Reactor, right
Just take a look at the above photo.  The number and thickness of the heat exchanger fins has been reduced.  Notice also that on the original Reactor, the heat exchanger fins and pot appear to be of one piece where in the new mini Reactor the fins are clearly welded on.  The net effect of these changes is significant:  The mini Reactor is a just plain lighter set up.   The mini Reactor is so much lighter that you notice it right away when you pick up the pot.

Now, MSR may face some criticism from some quarters for this design change.  In the original design, the entire heat exchanger fin was in contact with the pot.  In the new design, the fin only contacts the pot at the weld.  And of course there are fewer fins.  Clearly, there is going to be some reduction in heat transfer.  Indeed, MSR lists the boil time for one liter of water as 3.0 minutes for the original design but 3.5 minutes for the new design.

I would answer such criticism as follows:
1.  Everything in life is a tradeoff.  In order to lighten things up, the heat exchanger had to be redesigned.
2.  Entrainment of hot exhaust gasses continues undiminished (more on this in Appendix II).
3.  The level of heat transfer effected is still exceptional – far above that of a "plain" pot.

So, yeah, you're giving up some degree of efficiency, but you're gaining a much lighter system, a system that still works exceptionally well at transferring heat.  Beyond that, if you're really worried about that lost little bit of heat transfer efficiency, then just go out and buy the original version and carry the extra weight.  MSR will continue to offer both versions, so take your pick.  It's the best of both worlds, really.

Update 25 March 2013:  As I mentioned above, there is a newer version of the 1.7L Reactor pot available.   The newer version of the 1.7L Reactor pot still has higher efficiency than the 1.0L version.  The original version of the 1.7L Reactor pot has been discontinued.

Now, I listed "entrainment of hot exhaust gasses" as one of the things that contributes to the Reactor's amazing heat transfer efficiency.  Just what the heck does that mean?  Please see Appendix II, below, for an explanation.

New Features
Not only is the new pot lighter, but they've added some new features and options.  They're all nice, but I think the first is actually pretty important, particularly for serious climbers:  MSR has come out with a hanging kit.
A 1.0L mini Reactor in the new hanging kit
I'll review the hanging kit separately, but for now let me just say that the kit works well and that the kit is designed to fit all pot sizes for the Reactor system. Note:  I've only tested the hanging kit with the 1.0L sized pot so far.

Another great new feature:  They've added a pour spout.  Yeah, it's just a little thing, but darn is it handy.  Thank you, MSR!  I for one appreciate MSR's attention to detail.
The pour spout on the new 1.0L MSR Reactor pot
In conjunction with the pour spout is a new feature on the lid:  A drinking hole/strainer. 
Holes on the lid of the new 1.0L MSR pot can be used for drinking or as a strainer.
The knob on the lid has been changed.  The new knob can be used to hold the lid.  This may not be such a big deal for hikers and backpackers, but this might be really useful for climbers.
The knob on the pot lid can be used to suspend the lid
Now notice also that there's a hole in the center of the knob.
The hole in the center of the knob can accommodate a coffee press
MSR is now offering a French press that fits the new 1.0L pot.  Fresh morning coffee, anyone?  Nice!  I'll review the coffee press in an upcoming post.  Note:  MSR is also offering a separate, larger French press attachment for the original 1.7L Reactor pot.

Packability
OK, so it's smaller and lighter while still being efficient, and it's got some nice new features and optional extras.  That's all great, but can I still pack everything inside the pot like I could with the original version? 

Well, as a matter of fact, yes, you can still pack everything inside.  But, pay attention:  Along with the new 1.0L version of the MSR Reactor, MSR also introduced a new canister format for their 4 ounce class canisters.  The new canister format is more packable and contains essentially the same amount of gas as their old canisters.  See The New MSR Gas Canister for more details.  You must use the new canisters if you want to pack everything inside the pot.
The new, more packable version of the MSR 4 ounce class canister (which is now 3.9 oz/110g)
To pack things up, first put the included little pack cloth into the bottom of the pot.  This is actually fairly important for reasons that I'll explain in a minute.
First, place the pack cloth into the bottom of the pot.
Then, place the canister in the pot upside down.  Again, you must use the new 3.9oz/110g MSR canisters (or a similar canister of another brand).  The old 4.0oz/113g MSR canisters will NOT fit.  Go ahead and leave the cap on the canister; there is room.
Second, place the canister in upside down.
After that, place the burner, face down, into the pot.  Make sure you put the valve control into the pour spout of the pot.
Third, put the burner upside down into the pot, being careful to point the valve into the pour spout.
It's a tight fit, you may have to give it just a bit of a shove.  Now, here's where that bit of pack cloth comes in handy.  The end of the valve spindle will scratch up the pot. 
Scratches in the pour spout from the end of the valve spindle
So rather than scratch up your pot, merely position one corner of your pack cloth such that it protects the pour spout, like so:
Use the pack cloth to cover the tip of the valve spindle and protect your pot from scratching
Voila!  Problem solved.

It's a tight fit, but everything does fit, and you've got a very compact unit.

Capacity
So, the pot is billed as a 1.0L pot, and if you fill the pot right to the brim, yes you can fit a liter in there.  On the other hand, MSR recommends that you put only 0.5L in the pot at a time.  What?  Only use half the capacity of the pot?  What gives?  Well, the Reactor is one of the most powerful backpacking stoves in existence.  You can get a violent boil very quickly, a boil that could overtop the pot in the blink of the eye and presents a very real scalding risk.  And boiling hot water hitting a canister?  Yipes!  The pressure inside the canister could go through the roof.  Your stove could flare up or behave in unexpected, dangerous ways.  Not something I'd want to risk!

That said, I think a careful user, a user who kept the stove turned down and watched the pot like a hawk, could easily boil 0.75L at a time or maybe even 0.8L.  However, if you boil more than 0.5L at a time, you are going against the manufacturer's recommendations and you do so at your own risk.  The consequences of a boil over could be quite severe if your canister becomes overheated.  Beware!

Who the Heck Needs a Reactor?
People often ask me:  "Who the heck needs so much stove?"  Indeed, who does need such a powerhouse?

Well, perhaps not someone who is traveling in comparatively benign conditions.  But for those who travel in heavily windswept areas, particularly mountaineers who venture into high altitude, exposed terrain, the wind proofness of an MSR Reactor makes it just the stove you want.  The Reactor is the most wind proof upright canister stove, bar none.  When other stoves fail to even bring a pot to the boil, the Reactor hums along as though nothing unusual were happening.  If I were on a barren, windswept, high altitude plateau, there is no upright canister stove that I'd rather have.  Indeed, it is MSR's contention that the Reactor is the most windproof stove of all classes.  I haven't yet been able to corroborate that with my field testing, but it's certainly a credible claim.

But there's another application where the power of a Reactor can be properly brought to bear:  snow melting.  Think about it:  You pull into your camp for the night.  You need to melt enough snow for drinking and cooking that evening as well as enough water for your next day.  You might need as many as six liters.  That takes a lot of time.  The Reactor's power and efficiency can be a real asset for those who need to get into the bag ASAP and get up early for an "Alpine start."

I think therefore that the Reactor will appeal most to serious climbers and mountaineers, but there will certainly be an appeal to anyone who faces significant winds or needs to melt snow quickly.  In it's new compact, lighter format, the Reactor may also hold appeal to adventure racers.

Concluding Remarks
I bought an original Reactor several years ago.  To be honest, I really haven't used it all that much.  Is it a bad stove?  No, not at all, but I'm generally not willing to carry all that weight unless I really need it.  If I'm not going to need to melt some serious snow or expecting really windy conditions, I'm going to go with something lighter. With the new version, I expect to get a lot more use out of the stove.

The new version is certainly going to appeal to soloists, particularly serious climbers and mountaineers, but a Reactor is so stinkin' fast that I think the 1.0L pot can still be of use to a small team that wants to travel light and fast.  One just needs to "re-imagine" how to use the system. Instead of cooking everything at once, make small but quick courses.  It would take a bit of getting used to and a bit of thinking through in advance, but the new mini Reactor is fast enough to make it practical and would allow a small team to have real weight and space savings


The new 1.0L MSR Reactor 

What's good about it?
  • Significantly lighter than the original 1.7L pot (and also lighter than the newer 1.7L pot, but not as dramatically)
  • Great new options (hanging kit, coffee press)
  • Nice new features (pour spout, drinking holes)
  • Most windproof upright canister stove known to humankind, period (true of all Reactor sizes)
  • Powerful snow melting capabilities (true of all Reactor sizes)
What's bad about it?
  • Slightly less efficient (but hey, just go buy the 1.7L version if you really need that level of efficiency)
  • Like all upright canister stoves, the Reactor is adversely affected by cold weather.  Assume that you can go no colder than 20F/-7C with propane/isobutane fuel unless you know the "tricks."  See Appendix III, below, for further information.  
  • The burner can only use Reactor specific pots (true of all sizes)
The new 1.0L MSR Reactor:  Highly recommended

I thank you for joining me for another Adventure in Stoving,

HJ


Appendix I – Component Weights

ItemGrams MeasuredStated GramsOunces MeasuredStated Ounces
1.0L Pot1721976.16.9
Burner1781796.36.3
Lid36361.31.3
Pack Cloth440.10.1
Total39041613.814.7
Update 25 March 2013:  I've weighed my 1.0L pot at least ten times now.  I get 172g.  I talked to MSR.  They weighed a pot there in Seattle and confirmed 197g.  That's a difference of 25g (nearly an ounce).  I'm not sure what the issue is here.  My pot seems fine, but maybe I got an odd pot?  If I can, I'll head to a local store and see if I can measure another pot, but these are new, so I haven't seen them in any stores yet.  If you decide to purchase one, don't count on your pot being 172g; it may be 197g.  Regardless of the precise weight, the system is well designed, well put together, and is clearly lighter than the original Reactor. 


Appendix II – Entrainment of Hot Exhaust

What do I mean when I say that the Reactor "entrains hot exhaust gasses?"

Well, first let's take a look at the Reactor system.  How does air flow through the system?  Look at the exhaust vents built into the pot itself.  Notice that the vents are well up the sides of the pot.  This is important.
The exhaust vents on a Reactor pot.
 The hot gases produced by combustion exit through these vents.

OK, if that's where the exhaust goes out, how does air enter the system?  The burner nests tight against the bottom the pot.  Air can't come in around the sides of the burner.
The burner on a Reactor nestles up inside the pot.

So how does the air get in?  Through  the burner.  Take a look at a Reactor's burner.  Air is entering the system through the air inlet holes in the sides of the burner (well, specifically through two Venturi type ports on either side of the valve, but the essential idea is that the air comes in through the burner assembly).
Vent holes in the sides of the burner funnel air into the Reactor system.
OK, so we've got fresh air entering through the sides burner, proceeding through the combustion area of the burner, flowing along the heat exchanger fins, then up the sides of the pot, and finally exiting through the exhaust vents.  Note that the exhaust vents are well above the bottom of the pot.
Airflow in a Reactor system.
Blue = cool.  Red = hot.
With a conventional pot, the hot exhaust from the burner just flows out around the bottom of the pot and dissipates into the surrounding air.  With the Reactor, the hot gasses are trapped inside the heat exchanger assembly and channeled along the sides of the pot.  The hot gasses cannot exit until they reach the exhaust vents.  These hot exhaust gasses transfer additional heat to the pot, heat that is normally lost in other set ups.  The trapping of the hot output from the burner is what I mean by "entrainment of hot exhaust gasses" and is something that is unique to the Reactor among canister stoves.  This entrainment of hot exhaust gasses is part of what gives the Reactor its very high efficiency.

Appendix III – Cold Weather and Canister Gas Stoves

Canister stoves are generally limited in their operational temperature range to about 20F/-7C at sea level towards the end of the canister if you use propane/isobutane fuel (but there are "tricks;" see the article list, below).  I emphasize "at sea level" here because the higher you go, the colder you can operate a canister stove.  Generally, you can operate 2 Fahrenheit degrees colder per thousand feet of elevation that you gain (About 1 Celsius degree per 300m gain).  Of course with a fresh canister, you can go colder than that, but performance will fall off as the canister empties.  It is difficult if not impossible to determine how soon the performance will drop off as the canister empties, so I recommend the practice of assuming that you can go no colder than 20F/-7C at sea level with propane/isobutane fuel.  Note that 20F/-7C is the coldest temperature that you can operate at, so don't expect to start at 20F/-7C and be able to cook for long with a half empty canister; canisters get colder as you use them.  Note also my emphasis on using a propane/isobutane fuel.  You cannot use regular butane fuel in cold weather and expect decent results.  You must use a fuel that contains isobutane.

Sound complicated?  Don't despair!  It does take some getting used to, but it's actually not too bad.   For "tricks" to operating in cold weather, please see:   Cold Weather Tips for Gas Stoves

As alluded to above, it matters which brand of gas you buy for cold weather.  Please see:
What's the Best Brand of Gas for Cold Weather?

I've got a whole series of related articles if you'd like to read up.  Here's the whole list:

Saturday, March 23, 2013

The New MSR Gas Canister

In conjunction with the release of the new, lighter 1.0L Reactor stove, MSR has changed the format of their 4 ounce (113g) class gas canisters.  Note the emphasis on the word "class."  We'll return to that in a minute.
The new 3.9 oz/110g MSR gas canister
Yes, I'm writing a post about the shape of a gas canister.  :)  But I think this is actually news, and good news at that.  For some time, MSR, which has the best cold weather gas available (at least in the US market), has made a big, ungainly 4 oz/113g canister.
The old MSR 4 oz/113g canister (left) and the new more packable 3.9oz/110g canister (right)
Now, this is not to criticize MSR.  I think MSR was very nobly trying to provide better service to their customers.  The wider 108mm diameter MSR canister was clearly more stable than the 90mm industry standard.  But with the advent of readily available canister stands ("legs"), such stability is no longer so much a concern.
The old MSR canister format (bottom).  The new MSR canister format (top).

Now that MSR has accepted the 90mm industry standard, I can buy any four ounce class of canister and know exactly in which pots it will fit and which it won't.  The guess work and having to remember which is which is gone.
MSR and Jetboil, now the same diameter (90mm)
Lighter Weight
In addition, the new four ounce class canister is lighter for the amount of gas it contains.  The old canisters weighed 8.6oz/244g.  The new canisters weigh 7.4oz/211g -- for basically the same amount of gas.  More gas per unit of weight?  That's pretty nice if you ask me, and I have no objection whatsoever to saving an ounce in weight per canister.
MSR, Snow Peak, Optimus, and Jetboil four ounce class canisters now all have the same diameter (90mm)
Now, note my emphasis on the word "class" when I say four ounce class.   That's because the amount of gas in canister varies a bit brand by brand.  Jetboil for example contains 100g, and the old MSR canister contained 113g (exactly 4 oz).  With the change, MSR, Optimus, and Snow Peak will all uniformly have 110g (3.9 oz) of gas.  Jetboil is the outlier with only 100g.  I figure a 110g canister will last about 5 days for a person who is conservative and doing simple cooking in good weather or 3 days for two people.  For tougher weather or more complex cooking, you'll have to bring more gas of course, particularly if you're melting snow.
The new four ounce class canister actually contains 110g (3.9oz) instead of 113g (4.0oz).  A 3g difference?  No big deal.
MSR has also printed the gross (total) weight on the canister (7.4oz/211g), which is handy.

The Fuel Gauge
But what the heck are those little markings on the canister to the left of the weight?
The "fuel gauge" on the side of the new MSR canister
Interestingly, they're a sort of fuel gauge.  When the canister is full, it will float low in water.  When the canister is empty, it will float high in water.  Out on the trail, all you have to do is drop your fuel canister in a bowl or pot of water, and wherever the waterline hits on the "fuel gauge" is approximately how much fuel you've got left in your canister.  Pretty cool -- and for zero weight penalty.

I asked my contacts at MSR where they had gotten the idea, and they told me that it was from my article in Seattle Backpacker's Magazine, How Much Gas Do I Have Left?  Yes, of course it's flattering to me that a major stove company adopted my idea, but think about what this really means:  MSR is listening.  I for one have been very impressed by what's been coming out of MSR in the last half dozen years.  They're really paying attention to what the backpacking community wants, even to the point of small details like this.  I doubt that MSR will be making piles of money on this "fuel gauge."  It's just part of MSR's attitude of excellent customer service.  Good work, MSR.

The new 3.9 oz/110 g MSR gas canister.

So, let's see:  More packable, more gas for the weight, and a simple yet effective way to tell how much fuel I've got when I'm out on the trail?  What's not to like?  The new MSR canister:  I welcome it.

Thank you for joining me on another Adventure in Stoving,

HJ